Here's the hidden factor, even for 0 money down

---

Posted by Edward Nolan (Ohio) on December 21, 2002 at 02:58:10:

In Reply to: Income 2 debt ratio aside, how good does ur credit have 2B? posted by Dave on December 10, 2002 at 16:11:27:

Dave,

If you really want a bank to finance you, and say you have a bankruptcy that was discharged 2 years ago, you still have a good chance of buying a home, even with no money down.

Here's an example, and the hidden factor you're looking for...

Banks usually lend around 70% of the Loan To Value of a home.

If a home is selling for $100,000 the bank will in this example only lend $70,000 leaving you to raise the remainder of $30,000.
The remaining $30,000 will sometimes be held as a 2nd mortgage by the seller at a reduced interest rate if he/she thinks you're a good risk to them. See if they go ahead with the deal and you don't pay them the $30k, then they, the old home owner is forced to foreclose on you just like a bank would if you didn't pay the 70k.

Anyway, Lets say the seller was an excited seller and went for the deal, all you have left to negotiate is who is paying for the aprsl, title search, recording of the records, and believe it or not who will or how will the money the person brokering the deal get paid. The broker can charge around 2k even.

So, you see, you first need to know the loan to values the banks finance at, and then when the time comes to do a deal you'll know who has the best LTV. The best LTV is the one that pays as close to 100% as possible.

Next, you take the amount the seller is asking for and negotiate it down. I usually make my first offer 10-15k under their asking and if they drop 2k off their asking I usually match what they do by going up 2k in my counter offer. Example...

Seller 70k
Offer 55k
Seller counters at 68k
I counter offer at 57k
He came down 2k I went up 2k. If this keeps up I'll get the home at around 63k and hopefully get an aprsl of 70-75k. If aprsd at 70k the bank would at 70LTV lend me 49k leaving me to pay or do a seller carry back of 14k since I'm buying it at 63K and not 70K.

These numbers I am using like 70% are actually low. If you found a bank that lent 85% of the 70k then in the example above the bank would pay 59,500 leaving you to raise up to $3,500 plus points and closing costs. But lets say the seller would forgive the 3,500, all you would need to raise is the points payment if you wanted to pay down points, and the closing cost.

Hope you can eat all this...
Ed

Follow Ups:

---

Name    : 
E-Mail  : 
Subject : 

Comments:
: Dave,

: If you really want a bank to finance you, and say you have a bankruptcy that was discharged 2 years ago, you still have a good chance of buying a home, even with no money down. 

: Here's an example, and the hidden factor you're looking for...

: Banks usually lend around 70% of the Loan To Value of a home.

: If a home is selling for $100,000 the bank will in this example only lend $70,000 leaving you to raise the remainder of $30,000. 
: The remaining $30,000 will sometimes be held as a 2nd mortgage by the seller at a reduced interest rate if he/she thinks you're a good risk to them. See if they go ahead with the deal and you don't pay them the $30k, then they, the old home owner is forced to foreclose on you just like a bank would if you didn't pay the 70k.

: Anyway, Lets say the seller was an excited seller and went for the deal, all you have left to negotiate is who is paying for the aprsl, title search, recording of the records, and believe it or not who will or how will the money the person brokering the deal get paid. The broker can charge around 2k even.

: So, you see, you first need to know the loan to values the banks finance at, and then when the time comes to do a deal you'll know who has the best LTV. The best LTV is the one that pays as close to 100% as possible.

: Next, you take the amount the seller is asking for and negotiate it down. I usually make my first offer 10-15k under their asking and if they drop 2k off their asking I usually match what they do by going up 2k in my counter offer. Example...

: Seller 70k
: Offer 55k
: Seller counters at 68k
: I counter offer at 57k
: He came down 2k I went up 2k. If this keeps up I'll get the home at around 63k and hopefully get an aprsl of 70-75k. If aprsd at 70k the bank would at 70LTV lend me 49k leaving me to pay or do a seller carry back of 14k since I'm buying it at 63K and not 70K.

: These numbers I am using like 70% are actually low. If you found a bank that lent 85% of the 70k then in the example above the bank would pay 59,500 leaving you to raise up to $3,500 plus points and closing costs. But lets say the seller would forgive the 3,500, all you would need to raise is the points payment if you wanted to pay down points, and the closing cost. 

: Hope you can eat all this...
: Ed


Optional Link URL : 
Link Title        : 

Foreclosures Section

Foreclosure Help

Foreclosure Investing

Real Estate Articles

Our Site Resources

Discussion Archives